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Stan, we are so glad you are OK! A lot of concern at the start for you & your navigators safety.
Relax and recoup and we will hopefully see you again next year. As you feel better and have time I would love to know about the incident and its relationship to the afore mentioned tire discussion. It is always a big concern of mine.
Been back home for a few days and I talked to Steve last nite and he seems ok too.I am alittle lite headed when i stand up to fast but it is getting better ever day.So should be back to 'normal' in a week or less.
i have the tread from the tire and some pics of the area and plan on sending them to Eric for his determination on the failure.Tires were dated 3507,and the ONLY time they see the road is at these events I don't even trailer the car with them on.Stan
Hi Stan,

Great to hear that you and Steve are both OK. Believe me, we are all concerned with how you two are and wish you the best.

You might've heard that the #37 truck lost a right front about 30 miles from the start at just over 170 mph. Luckily we were able to stop safely. These tires were fresh and had only miles from this event (maybe 40 miles) on them, so you just never know.

Take Care,
Tom C. #37
Glad you guys are okay.

Opinion: If we blame the rumble strip NDOT would shut down the race before doing anything with the rumble strip. I believe there are other rumble strip designs that do not upset the balance of the car as badly as these do yet give steering feel and audible feedback.

I too bought new tires immediately prior to the event. When I got to Ely my tires were out of balance. I didn't have a smile on my face and wanted to know how far out they were. One ounce, half ounce and quarter ounce were the needed changes. Before I got back to San Diego they needed balanced again. I get sqarely in the face of my tire shop manager. He informed me that on newly mounted tires imperefections in the road will cause tires slip on the rim due to the lubrication used in mounting.

Not as a Silver State competitor but rather as a taxpayer and normal driver I blame the rumble strip, the manager knew nothing of the rumble strip and still doesn't. When I raced motorcycles we screwed through the rim into the tire bead to prevent rotation on the rim. Not pretty but it worked.

Legally I don't go as fast as Stan or Tom but I do not trust new tires. I want to have 1,000 miles on them before starting an ORR event.

We were sure glad to hear that you and Steve are doing OK. I had some dizzyness after my accident that slowly went away over a few months. I think it is caused by the inner ear taking some big hits. Give it a little time and you will be back to normal. Sure sorry about the car.

By the way, I agree with Ray about feeling more confident in tires that have a few miles on them rather than brand new tires.
Stan glad you and steve are doing well. Hope to see you back in the spring. What we do is a very challanging form of motorsports and at the higher speeds things can go bad fast. I took a good look at the car at the truck stop and @#$%#^. The safety equipment did its job. I would conclude that after that much damage it would be hard to locate the cause. I have no issues crossing over the rumple strips at 190 in the sweepers. However, after my slow run in the spring when I had a 165 tech speed I had some issues with them and adjusted the hi speed damping on the suspension to make it recover faster and droped a few pounds of tire pressure). I would encurage the group to not make an issue of them as I think NDOT will not care and tell us off. Figure out how to tune for them.
As far as mounting tires it is very importnat that the tire shop only use a very mild solution of dish soap and water(a few drops in fresh water) not the nasty they use on a daily basis. This is not a hunch but something I have experience with. The nasty crap they use everyday at the tire shop will not dry and you might as well use oil to mount them.
Well I mount the tires myself and those tires had been run at more moderate speeds earlier.The weights that they took were super!less than .5 oz total per wheel.Crossing the rumble strip was not the problem the problem was WHAT was in the rumble strip.Then when the tire did go and we ran over[or started to hit them] with the pass side of the car that finished off what control I had regained.I think that there will be more failures like this if the strips do not get cleaned out.Just look in 10 of them and look what you will find!Esp in May because that will be after the snow and tire chains use bungy cords to tension them.The rumble strip is the lowest point in the road and is a catch all for the hooks,bolts,class,or anything else.At the higher speeds esp with the splitter I had I can only imagine the suction that is created or maybe a faster car sucking something out of the strip.

I do not understand the reasoning behind having them in the center,other than to line a contractors pocket.the fog line ones do just fine. Stan
Stan I was only addressing ray's concern of tires slipping on the rim as far as mounting tires. you run a good program. I don't like the strips any more then you but I see them everywhere. I find all kinds of things stuck in the bottom of the car after a run. you make a good point about them collecting things. All I can do is make the car handle well and the rest is up to the road God.
Over here lorry and camel jockeys use rumble strips and Bots-dots as 'recommended' boundries to keep miniml damage to hoofs.

When I raced bikes we didn't need any stinkin bolts in the tires but I am now re-considering adding these to my very fast '69 Norton Commando which is my 'daily driver' over here.

Has anyone suggested Jersey Barriers or K-rail where the existing rumble strips are now installed? Huh, has anyone but me? Tom and the rest of you pencil dicks have never had to work for a living so I doubt it.
Center line rumble strips have been added to nearly all two-lane roads in my area up here in Eastern Washington where the speed limit is 45 or greater. I had to pass a slow moving vehicle on a 60 recently after dark and the center line rumble strips nearly scared the piss out of me (having promptly forgotten they were there).

I've heard DOT say it's to help prevent head-on collisions. We'll just have to see if it actually reduces them.

Besides the pucker factor, I have to agree with Stan. They are a great little catch-all for foreign debris that otherwise won't get cleaned out unless you have something crossing the line and picking it up, ala ORR. Unfortunately I can't think of a cost effective way to make sure they are cleaned out prior to an event either.

I do know one thing... just reading other peoples posts about this will cause me to never run anything like a DOT legal race slick shaved to within a few 32nd's of its life.

Anybody make any high speed rated run-flats?

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