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Re: getting ready for Sept.

Asa Jay Laughton ·
Thanks Owen, I'll be playing pit crew for Team Pantera Racing, helping pre-tech the cars and then driving tow rig to the finish line. Plenty to keep me busy. Stay safe out there, I won't be able to honk this year. Asa Jay
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Re: A Deal is a Deal (Rookies Better Stock Up On Snickers & Mountain Dew)

Berry Lowman ·
Thanks John! Yeah, that May 2008 race was one heckuva intro to ORR, wasn't it?!? I'm so glad we came back for more after that debacle, or else look at all the fun we'd have missed out on all these years! Hope to see you & your new Z06 on 318 in 2017! BTW, if you're running 125 next May, you may find yourself lined up on the grid close to me ...
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Re: what to do if car breaks down during the race

Steve Donegan ·
You wait, and if you have cell signal you might do a pre-emptive call for a tow truck telling them to await the road being open - nothing moves until the road is open...
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Re: Another great event!

Asa Jay Laughton ·
For my inagural event, I had a blast. I attended SSCC in 2008 as a tow rig driver and support crew. I have to say, I was very glad to have been part of this 25th Anniversary celebration, you folks pulled out all the stops. And I had a lot of fun too. I'm now back home after a two day 1,100 mile drive. I pray the folks from Canada and Texas all get home safe. Oh, and they folks from Wisconsin too. Asa Jay
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Re: Road Condition

Tom King ·
Charlie, I wasn't the only one to say you were super smooth; your ride-along instructor marveled at it as well. And with our head-on view of your line through the S curves, we watched as you straightened out the S and lost none of that inertia you're so proud of. Plus you were catching other cars on the track in your 3-ton tow vehicle. It was way cool. I completely agree with you about taking the right line on the Silver State Classic Challenge Highway. It's safer, and it looks better in the...
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Re: I have not forgotten you....

Tom King ·
George, turns out due to the failure of your tow vehicle, you are obligated to return the finishers medal. All kidding aside, great run, man.
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Re: What are you doing to get ready for September?

Steve Donegan ·
Well Tom, to even reach a place where you can mount the beasties requires removing the entire brake assembly, hub, etc - thus the nasty big bolts. And BTW - thanks for loaning me your spare sensor for testing - I ordered 2 so John L and I can do our cars (hopefully before September - work has been, well busy is a mild statement). We intend to install them this week - already know where to route the wiring through existing passages :-) Looking forward to seeing you again in 65 or so days...
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Re: Road Condition

George Suennen ·
When we drove over the summit it was snowing. With the tow vehicle out of commission, we were in the 928, all taped up(so no lights) and no chains, but we made it to the starting line. Boy they got you guys off quick. When we got there, all the first group cars were gone, and they were lining up the Supersports. Was rushing to get suited up when they told us about the yahoo in the 4-Runner.
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Re: Road Condition

Tom King ·
George, congratulations on your first place finish in the 170 mph class. In fact, you were the second fastest car in the whole event! Only the incredible Tom Whalen in the 180 class had a faster time. Your perseverance in spite of the tow vehicle problem was also pretty amazing. Next time maybe you'll use those 200 mph tire chains? Oh, wait, I'll bet you were even faster than 200 mph through the trap. It will be interesting to see the official results with the trap speeds.
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Re: Road Condition

George Suennen ·
Originally Posted by Tom King: George, congratulations on your first place finish in the 170 mph class. In fact, you were the second fastest car in the whole event! Only the incredible Tom Whalen in the 180 class had a faster time. Your perseverance in spite of the tow vehicle problem was also pretty amazing. Next time maybe you'll use those 200 mph tire chains? Oh, wait, I'll bet you were even faster than 200 mph through the trap. It will be interesting to see the official results with the...
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Re: What are you doing to get ready for September?

George Suennen ·
First thing on my list is to fix the tow vehicle And my restart strategy is to hit reset on the gps...
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Re: What are you doing to get ready for September?

Steve Donegan ·
Well George, we don't tow so that item is not on my list, sorry it is on yours :-( And restart the GPS is effectively what I did for average speed, Alvin manually recalculated the time part of the equation and thus we were darned close on speed and off by seconds on time. Alvin's time calcs were dead on, we just couldn't get the speed right with zero checkpoints/mile markers - it was 100% ballistic navigation... IE - leave point X, get to average speed (my system showed 99.99/100.01 MPH...
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Re: Help getting to Las Vegas

Owen Green ·
George catch up with me. Have assistant that can drive my truck back to Vegas. if you need I can bring your rig to finish if they will let me drop it off and run back to my gate. Was planning on camping at gate but can get creative if needed. 1I
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Re: The Great Dessert Challenge

George Suennen ·
Tom/Blue, The odds are getting better that I might be able to see the outcome of this years GDDC. I got the car to start and idle. Still didn't run smooth, had a significant stutter, but Bill thinks we can tune that out tomorrow. Also my son Josh said he could make the trip (barring unforeseen circumstances), so we might have a driver for the tow rig, plus someone to start our video cameras at the start line. George http://928.jorj7.com
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Re: Steve Waldman

Asa Jay Laughton ·
Dennis (Mad Dog) Antenucci and the rest of Team Pantera Racing wish to extend our condolences and express sadness at Steve's passing. I was first introduced to Steve in 2008 when I accompanied Dennis to SSCC that year to work as pit crew and tow driver. Dennis related to me many early stories about the race, how Steve used to drive a Pantera, how he was the driving force behind opening up Open Road Racing on 318, and how he had this great wife Gail who loved him, took care of him and was...
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Re: Driving suit ... ?

Asa Jay Laughton ·
I would say "NO" in big letters. The 2014 Rule Book indicates on page 24 that "Proban or other treated cotton suits are not permitted." If you look at this posting it would indicate Pyrovatex is better than Proban: http://www.ovalracingforums.co....php?f=12&t=9041 However, you must note that Pyrovatex is COTTON, albeit treated, so therefore I say it falls under the rule associated with the Proban statement above. But even with that in mind, do you -really- want to run Pyrovatex? See this...
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Re: Driving suit ... ?

Dave Hoppie ·
I realized my last statement above may have sounded defensive, so I edited it Gotta try and make tech as smooth sailing as possible ! ... I do own some race slippers but that's a long story !
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Re: SSCC Board Statement on Tow Rigs, Start Grid Order, & Race Fuel for 2018 NORC Race Day

Dave Bauer ·
Let me be the 1st SS car to ask if the Board has done the math on this. First, I thought the road closed at 5am, not 6am. If all the GS and slower cars go before the SS cars. all of the SS car will be sitting until after 10:40 if there are 120 cars at 1 minute apart. We will be sitting on the side of the road for over 5 1/2 hours. then once we go should finish 1st leg around 11:30. I do not know how long it will take to start the 2nd leg, but 1 hour sounds reasonable. If that happens the 1st...
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Re: SSCC Board Statement on Tow Rigs, Start Grid Order, & Race Fuel for 2018 NORC Race Day

Tom King ·
I tend to agree with Dave: start the SS cars first for this event. That would eliminate the sweep time (between last 95 and first SS) and reduce the time risk. In the past, the reason for starting the Super Sport last was their higher risk of red flag. However, in the last 10 events most of the SS DNFs were UNL cars. In this two-way event, there is no UNL class, so the risk is reduced. Again, in the last 10 events, the non-UNL SS cars (i.e., 160, 170, and 180) had less than a 9% DNF rate.
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Re: SSCC Board Statement on Tow Rigs, Start Grid Order, & Race Fuel for 2018 NORC Race Day

Dave Bauer ·
Another thought, I know I have only been involved since 2010, but since then there has been 18 DNF with SS or unlimited cars and only 1 has caused a red flag. But 2 times GS cars in the same time frame caused a rad flag. So things that the SS class will cause a red flag is old school, we have come a long way in the safety way of thinking. We are all here to have a safe race!
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Re: SSCC Board Statement on Tow Rigs, Start Grid Order, & Race Fuel for 2018 NORC Race Day

George Suennen ·
What about the crew members that support the SS cars/drivers at the start line. They usually drive/are in the tow vehicles. How will they get to the start line to assist the SS cars if they need to get the tow vehicles back to Lund by 6 AM? Will they need to drive a separate car back to the start line after leaving the tow vehicle in Lund? Will there be a shuttle for them and their equipment? There a lot more questions about the logistics, but I hope you get the gist of the problem. Some of...
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Re: SSCC Board Statement on Tow Rigs, Start Grid Order, & Race Fuel for 2018 NORC Race Day

Berry Lowman ·
George - Tow rigs that want to unload at the Rest Area have to be South of the Lund Cattle Guard before 6 AM. They are not to return to back to Lund after unloading, but rather, must stay at the Rest Area for the duration of the race. All starting line crew support staff should be in the tow rigs, at the Rest Area, which is near the starting grid. They will remain there until the tace is over. Any tow rig or persons wishing to go to the Rest Area on Sunday AM, but who also intend to go back...
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Re: SSCC Board Statement on Tow Rigs, Start Grid Order, & Race Fuel for 2018 NORC Race Day

Berry Lowman ·
For all those requesting that SS Class be allowed to start first, be it over speed math, timing concerns, etc., remember, the SSCC Board has weighed and debated both sides of this topic internally many times between last September and now. Both sides of the coin were considered by them. They only asked that I, as SSCC public spokesperson, relay their offical decision to all of you now as a point of clarity for this event. This statement today was prompted by your questions, and me taking it...
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Re: SSCC Board Statement on Tow Rigs, Start Grid Order, & Race Fuel for 2018 NORC Race Day

George Suennen ·
Berry, Thanks for the clarification, but it looks like I'll miss this experience. Hope to get the car running again and race ready for September. George 1990 Porsche 928 S4 http://928.jorj7.com
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Re: Silkrip NSX

Tom King ·
BTW, the NSX buyer also bought the tow vehicle and the trailer.
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Re: Thank You to All Racers & Volunteers Who Made this 1st Two-Way NORC a Success!

William ·
Great event, we had a blast. Suggestion: No rain next year. Bill, Megan, and Sean
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Re: Thank You to All Racers & Volunteers Who Made this 1st Two-Way NORC a Success!

Mike Laiserin ·
Berry, consider the possibility of finding another location for the Shootout; one long enough to bring back a 1.5 mile run like the Mojave Magnum. That's a tough bill to fill but would surely draw more participation.
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Re: Thank You to All Racers & Volunteers Who Made this 1st Two-Way NORC a Success!

Jean Lowry ·
As a volunteer May was my fifth event. I thoroughly enjoy the memories you all make for me. Pictures hang on my wall bringing a smile every time I look at them. Thank you. See you in September.
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Re: Thank You to All Racers & Volunteers Who Made this 1st Two-Way NORC a Success!

Lanny Lowman ·
Found one for the SSCC, now to see if they are interested and can get the road :-)
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Re: Thank You to All Racers & Volunteers Who Made this 1st Two-Way NORC a Success!

Owen Green ·
wasn't nothing but a lil thing.
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Re: super sport class

George Suennen ·
I'm scheduled to pick up a trailer on Thursday morning, then make the drive to Ely. I've got the tow vehicle in for service right now... George 1990 Porsche 928 S4 http://928.jorj7.com
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Re: 30th Anniversary SSCC Event to Feature a Father vs Son 155 Class Battle

Tom King ·
Gee, Malcolm, you have a great point. Of course, Barbara and Jacques were only 0.0931 seconds slow in May, so they may not have much to worry about - they seem to have their own machine gun. To be fair, I did tell Barbara that I would be running 115 in case she wanted to school you guys in 150 instead ... Anyway, the answer to your question (why 115?) is complicated. I have this ridiculous conceit of wanting to win every speed class from 95 through 160, and I'm hoping to target the 115 class...
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Re: How long is the course, really?

Blue Offutt ·
Ken, Deven, I'll start a new thread with an official statement on markers, mileage, rumble strips, etc. Blue
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Re: What is the policy on rain?

Deven Hickingbotham ·
I think there should be some formal policy statement or rule. For fun, I'll through this out there: Moderate to heavy rain or other unsafe weather cancels the event and the refund policy is ?????. Light rain is up to the driver to decide, with the option to move down to a slower class (I realize logistically this would be hard to do at the last minute, but I think this would greatly enhance safety). Those opting not to run would get a refund of ?????. Has anyone driven 318 when it is raining...
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Re: Is anyone going racing 9 days left

Asa Jay Laughton ·
The Racing Against Autism Pantera is ready. We took the last couple of months to rebuild a bigger Holley carb and put it on, install an Innovative Motorsports A/F gauge to help tune, a new oil temp sender and gauge, check compression, valve train operations, borescope the cylinders, change ZF fluid, engine oil, finish installing the roll cage and padding, brand new tires with 2015 date codes, replacement steering rack, wheel balance, alignment, new spark plugs, wires, cap and rotor and a...
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Re: new guy

Tom King ·
John, I leave my trailer at Ash Springs. I always ask the owners at R Place if I can do that, and they always say yes, and I always thank them. They want you to park the trailer way back against the southern fence. Then at Sams Town, the trailer parking is in a big rig lot on the north side of Flamingo across from the hotel. In Ely, you may notice that there are more police agencies than you can count - local, state, county, reservation, and feds - maybe because of the prisons. But for...
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Re: The Great Desert Dessert Challenge

George Suennen ·
6,000 lbs, at least it'll ride a little lower. 95 mph class, you could even tow my empty trailer down to Ash Springs while your at it. George 1990 Porsche 928 S4 http://928.jorj7.com
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Re: The Great Desert Dessert Challenge

Deven Hickingbotham ·
Originally Posted by George Suennen: 6,000 lbs, at least it'll ride a little lower. 95 mph class, you could even tow my empty trailer down to Ash Springs while your at it. Now that I would like to see!
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Re: My troubles getting to NORC

Ray Alexander ·
I could finish the story now. Shortly after the event I had to go to a family reunion in Missouri. I had an old German that did my automotive electrical issues, urban renewal caused him to retired. Got back to CA and through referrals found a place I would trust. They were too busy, my Dodge was down waiting for a drive shaft. Off I go. It gave a dead battery symptom in Flagstaff. Got a jump start from tow truck. Find a battery place in Albuquerque, The young lad said I couldn't bring out a...
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Re: Have a Great Race and be safe

George Suennen ·
Thanks Tom, I've been running Super Sport since 2005 and driving my car to the events. 2013 NORC was the first event I trailered the car to. Of course the tow vehicle broke down in Eureka on the way to Ely, so I had to drive the car the rest of the way, run the race, then follow the U Haul truck towing my tow vehicle home. It was raining in Ely, then snowing in the pass driving to Lund but 318 was clear and the weather was sunny by the time the race started.
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Re: New Unlimited Record!!

Steve Mott ·
I just want to add both my congratulations and my thanks to Bob and Dave and their team. Some of you know that my camper shell on my truck decided to become airborne on the trip up to Ely from Las Vegas. Bob and Dave and their crew stopped to help me get it back on the truck (I certainly couldn't do it alone). On Saturday, when my race car wouldn't start, they helped pushed the car to a location where I could get a battery charger hooked up. Then on Sunday, Tim, a member of their crew in...
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Re: SA 2005 Helmets

Ray Alexander ·
The race director for BBORR made a clear statement that SA2005 helmets would not be allowed. It seems that NORC and SSCC sees things the same as drag racing, the 2005 is good until 2017. I am not a chemist, but I have been told that fiberglass never stops hardening making older helmets more prone to shatter. I would "'feel" safer in a SA2015. I hope the race director makes a statement allowing the SA2015.
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Re: 2013 SSCC Preparations, What are -you- doing to get ready?

George Suennen ·
Asa, Glad you're going to the 2013 Silver State. I plan to be there also. You know Steve D. started a " What are you doing to get ready for September?". thread. But since I'm an in-betweener, 1970s vs 2010s, I'll participate in both threads. I got the tow vehicle fixed and can focus on the race car. I had an oil analysis done after the last race, and it came back better then the one before the NORC, so I don't have to pull the engine... The supercharger is back with the kit builder getting...
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Re: First year team

Mike Borders ·
Johnny, there are two ways to do this, assuming you are going to Las Vegas or points south after the race: 1) Either have someone heading south drive your rig down early in the morning before the road closes, or 2) have someone drive it down after the road opens up. (There is no hassle driving a non-street legal car from Ely to the starting line, especially if you are in the convoy.) There are pros and cons for both. For #1, the pro is that it is there when you finish, and you can load up...
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Re: First year team

Former Member ·
The race order is that we start with the 150 class, work our way down to 95. We conduct a sweep of the road then start the UNL and work our way down to 160. Typically it is not "late in the day" for the race to be over, depending on the number of participants, and it does not take "1-2 hours" to re-open the road. You can bring a friend along to drive your rig, post here for a volunteer or ask around at the event. For peace of mind I suggest one of the first two options. If a car is street...
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Re: First year team

Mike Borders ·
I wasn't implying it took 1-2 hours to open the road. I actually said, "plus 1-2 hours for the road to open and the 90-mile drive south," which, at 70 mph, takes about an hour and a half to drive after the usual time between race finish and road open, or, a total of about 2 hours after the Unlimiteds finish. Under optimal conditions they finish at about 1 PM, meaning you wouldn't get to the finish line until about 3 PM. To that point, "later in the day" is a better statement than "late in...
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Re: First year team

Owen Green ·
Johnny if you do make the event ask any veteran racer to point me out. If possible I can bring your rig to finish line provided that you get in contact with me before sat afternoon. I usually camp at my gate the night before. Owen long time SSCC course worker. gate 148 Ln14 7mi before finish.
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Re: ORR AID discrepency

Blue Offutt ·
Hi AJ, When I hand out the latest notes during the Ash Springs safety talk/orientation, I always tell rookies that I don't guarantee the accuracy of the mileages and I strongly encourage them to measure the last 10 or 15 themselves. That's the only way to feel 100% comfortable about mileages. Of course, I immediately follow that statement with a blurb about numerous folks taking trophies home using said notes. See ya soon!
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Re: NEED DRIVER SUNDAY MORNING

Tom King ·
In an apparent fit of temporary (I hope) insanity, my cousin Jerry volunteered to drive Mad Dawg's rig to the finish Sunday morning, so it's all arranged. Now, MD, just don't lose major pieces of your car along the route or catch fire or some silly thing like that!
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